Oprah talks divorce, sex tape with Kardashians
Posted June 17, 2012
Oprah sat down to chat up the entire Kardashian clan for a two-part special of Oprah's Next Chapter. Here's what went down when part one aired on Sunday:
After an intro showing the family all atwitter prepping for Oprah's visit to the Jenner family home in Hidden Hills, Calif., the media mogul arrives and sits down with the four Kardashian kids: Kim, Khloe, Kourtney and Rob. Oprah wants to know if everything they do is to make them even more famous.
"For me, I'm still not comfortable with being famous," says Kourtney. Oprah's not buying it: "Nobody would believe that the Kardashians would be uncomfortable being famous!" she says. "I never use the word famous or celebrity," adds Kim.
Next up, Oprah (in voiceover form) talks about mom Kris' divorce from their father, the late attorney Robert Kardashian. "Maybe I'm kind of scared of marriage because of that," says Kourtney, who is pregnant with her second child with boyfriend Scott Disick. "I'd like to (get married) someday for my children ... but I know I'm just as committed if I'm married or not married."
Oprah asks Kim how her dad would feel about the series. "I think he would be proud of us," she says with a smile.
"So you have never felt exploited by your mother?" asks Oprah.
"No," says Kim. "Never," replies Khloe.
Kim then reveals that she was "almost 15" when she told her mom she wanted to have sex for the first time. Oprah's reaction: "Wow!" Kim says Kris put her on birth control and that was that.
Could this mega fame have happened if they weren't good looking? "I don't think Kim's fabulous body doesn't hurt us at all," says Khloe.
Oprah asks what people should know about the Kardashian family. "That there's just a lot of heart," says Kim.
Next up, Oprah and Kris sit down for a one-on-one in the kitchen. "You and your family have become nothing short of what really is a phenomenon," says Oprah. She wants to know why. "It's definitely a dynamic that happens once in a lifetime ... the kids are not afraid to show their emotions," says Kris. "We let it all hang out."
"How much of it is real?" asks Oprah. "What you see on our show is 22 minutes of an entire day or a week. All of what you see is exactly what's going on," says Kris, who says she was first inspired by the Osbournes, a family she calls "pioneers" in the world of reality TV.
Time for the topic of Kim's infamous sex tape. "Bad day," notes Kris. "You do what a mom would do. I cried myself to sleep for a few nights, and then I said, 'I love you ... we can get through anything.' "
Back to the topic of Kris and Robert's divorce. "Probably the lowest point and biggest regret," says Kris. She adds that she doesn't regret revealing in her memoir that she cheated on Robert. After her divorce, she met Bruce Jenner on a blind date.
When Robert decided to to represent O.J. Simpson during the infamous murder trial, "I was disappointed and I was confused," says Kris. When it comes to whether Simpson was guilty, "I just think that it's not fair to keep commenting on that or saying what my opinion is because of his kids," says Kris.
On to a one-on-one with Kim, who Oprah points out is the most popular of the bunch. Oprah gets right to the point: Was her 72-day marriage to Kris Humphries a stunt? "We don't do anything for ratings. I think anyone who knows me knows that I fall in love hard," says Kim. Oprah digs deeper, saying that obviously a big wedding special would draw huge numbers. "I would have had a big wedding regardless of who I am," says Kim. So the marriage wasn't to get ratings? "No," says Kim, who goes on to talk about how she didn't really know Kris before they got married. "Once we moved in, I knew that he was not the one." Were you bored? "Yeah." Kim goes on to apologize "to anyone I might have hurt." And yes, she clarifies that she's talking about her ex.
Back to the sex tape topic. "Would you be where you are had there not been a sex tape?" asks Oprah. Big, heaving sigh from Kim. "That's pretty much how I was introduced to the world. It was a negative way, so I feel like I had to work 10 times harder to get people to see the real me," says Kim, who felt "humiliated." She says she doesn't "know what I would have done" had she had to explain it to her father.
Sex tapes and 72-day marriages aside, Kim is still hopeful. "I have to live with the choices I have made." These days, Kim says, "I am just such a calm, different person, and my life isn't all about me."
And she's still a hopeless romantic. "I want babies. I want my forever, and I want my fairy tale," says Kim. "Is Kanye West your new fairy tale?" asks Oprah.
"Ah," says Kim with a smile.
And that's it! Oprah totally leaves us hanging.
Part two airs at 8 p.m. ET/PT on June 24 on OWN.
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